How To Use Drain Cleaning Bladder On Pool Filter Line
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I have a CC 100 Cartridge filter in my plumbing system. I'thou thinking of using the bleed plug on the cartridge filter as a drain for my pool. I'thousand getting tired of dragging out the sump pump.
This is my idea:
one. Remove drain plug at the bottom of the cartridge filter canister. Its one.5 inches threaded.
2. Thread in an adapter or coupling to 1.5 pvc.
3. And so a shut off valve then a 1.5 drain pipage.
4. When I need to drain down the pool open the close off valve and plow on the pool pump.
Is there a reason this wouldn't work or shouldn't be washed that way.
I retrieve this would be easier than cut into the plumbing.
Thanks in advance
Bob
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There was a mail service a while back well-nigh that very thing. Seems like it would piece of work very well.
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Did information technology. Works corking! I'yard very happy. Thank you Bama.
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Practice you know if the pentair clean and clear
Plus cartridge
Filter have the same outlet? What did it take to go the PVC "adapted"?
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There's a T in my return line that has a hose bib thread on it. I only hook a garden hose to information technology. It doesn't become full catamenia, simply information technology'southward enough to water the backyard with.
That said, I wish I had a multiport in my system.
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If you cheque the drain plug on the bottom if the stock number is 86202000 Drain Cap Assy. Then it'due south the standard ane.5 inch PVC plumbing thread stuff. I used an threaded 1.5 inch to PVC so a section of pvc an i.v inch ball valve and then out to the driveway to drain.
The bleed cap assy is similar $10 and a 1.5 inch threaded cap is only $.89 and does the aforementioned thing, go effigy.
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Are yous opening the drain plug while the pump is on? Another way to exercise information technology would be to brand your own multiport valve. If you cutting into line after the pump prior to the filter with a T junction put a on/off valve going to the filter and to a open up plug (your exhaust drain) then y'all could command the h2o flow. You lot could bleed h2o very fast like backflushing while not using your filter to filter waste water and getting information technology dirty for cypher. Shut the h2o going to the filter and get high pressure to your Open up exhaust port. This should drain your pool fast till it reaches the skimmer level.
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Are you opening the drain plug while the pump is on? Another manner to do it would be to make your own multiport valve. If you cut into line after the pump prior to the filter with a T junction put a on/off valve going to the filter and to a open up plug (your exhaust drain) then y'all could control the water flow. You could drain water very fast similar backflushing while not using your filter to filter waste water and getting it dirty for nothing. Close the water going to the filter and get high pressure to your OPEN exhaust port. This should drain your pool fast till it reaches the skimmer level.
I've plumbed in a shut off valve into where the drain plug would go. I didn't want to cutting into the plumbing information technology was easier this way for my application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BvG6owVWh8s/ThINO1zeK5I/AAAAAAAAAxs/InwANBh-RHQ/s800/IMG_7471.JPG
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How do you waste/drain the water? Through the filter drain plug? That will work just you will have to refill the filter and drain off air. You will as well filter water yous plan to drain.
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bobodaclown's arroyo does not filter water that is being drained, nor does it unremarkably result in needing to bleed off air (though that tin can happen sometimes). Putting in a valve and bleed piping to replace the drain plug also has other advantages. Information technology makes the filter easier to clean out (opening a valve is easier than removing the bleed plug) and gives you lot some control over where the h2o goes when you are doing a full make clean out
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In my picture only to permit you know. The one.five threaded adapter, pipe section, valve, piping department, coupling, then ninety degree are all glued but the rest isn't. All the pressure side stuff is Schedule 40 PVC, but after the valve you could use DWP (sparse wall) stuff.
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I dont like the idea of using pressure level to waste water out of the filter. Sure the bleed will remove water simply before its filtered inside the hopper but how does the filter deal with negitive force per unit area and still return some water to the puddle? You lot have water trying to get dorsum to the pool while the drain is open. Hayward specifically says not to do this. On the pro multiports they build in a specific notch on the control for featherbed and waste to avoid using the filter when wasting water. The drain opening is to be used while not under pressure and to bleed the filter for servicing. This is my understanding of the warning Hayward writes in the manual.bobodaclown's approach does not filter water that is being drained, nor does it normally result in needing to bleed off air (though that can happen sometimes). Putting in a valve and drain pipe to replace the drain plug too has other advantages. Information technology makes the filter easier to clean out (opening a valve is easier than removing the drain plug) and gives you some control over where the h2o goes when you are doing a total make clean out
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What warning? None of what y'all are saying makes whatsoever sense. At that place won't be negative force per unit area, inappreciably any water will go back to the pool, and nowhere I looked (5 or half dozen dissimilar Hayward manuals) says a thing about this.Sure the drain will remove water just earlier its filtered within the hopper but how does the filter deal with negitive pressure and still render some water to the pool? You have water trying to get dorsum to the pool while the bleed is open. Hayward specifically says non to practice this.
You should never open up upwards a filter or remove the drain plug while the filter is pressurized, but that isn't what is happening in this state of affairs. Removing the drain plug is dangerous. Having the drain plug already removed then applying pressure is simply fine.
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Information technology actually works quite well with the pump running and the drain open, and I still get some flow back to the puddle through the filter. I have a Pentair Clean and Articulate owners manual P/N 178556 Rev. D 6-26-09 the transmission doesn't state whatsoever matter similar that.
The pump creates menses, resistance to catamenia creates pressure. Water enters the lesser of the unit and tin can get three possible ways:
i. Though the filter medium
2. Though the bleed valve if opened.
three. Or some combination of the above options.
Water will go the path of least resistance and will try to equalize.
There is no negative pressure afterward the pump when the pump is operating.
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Very interesting and helpful thread. I just plumbed a garden hose nib to drain overfilling from rain.
I should've looked hither offset. I put information technology afterward filter because information technology was more eaiser to get to, there is no T, just inline, is that why the water comes out kinda weak?(unlike garden hose from regular plumbing pressure)
Dumb question, but wouldn't putting a valve after drain nib to cake render to pool and have 100% get out neb to drain exist more than effective/faster? or would i blow up filter?
Cheers again guys!
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h2o takes the path of least resistance. A hose bib is pretty pocket-sized compered to the rest of the pipe. you could add a valve to create resistance (cake) and more water would pass out the hose bib.
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I'm a make new puddle owner, installed a few months agone, and accept been trying to figure out how to "vacuum to waste matter" if I e'er had to. I was thinking of installing a 3 style valve betwixt the pump and filter, only then I thought about the drain at the lesser of the canister. I went to the pool supply shop and bought one of these valves, removed the drain cover and replaced it with the valve. Continued the blue pvc collapsible hose to it with a hose clamp, and at present I can vacuum to waste AND drain the pool in case of heavy rains. Also, if vacuuming to waste product, I would merely remove the cartridge and so no "unwanted" residue does non become caught in the cartridge. Similar I said, I'm a real newbie to this, so I'm sure others have better solutions, like one in another thread who suggested vacuuming via a siphon directly out of the pool, which sounds simple, only I thought this would give improve suction.
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